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> <channel><title>Comments on: Is Wikipedia Corrupt?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:23:49 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Mutsumi623</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1977</link> <dc:creator>Mutsumi623</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:50:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1977</guid> <description>Wikipedia has been out of control for quite some time.  There are at least two users who have gotten a bunch of innocent users blocked for fixing a bunch of articles they messed up, for games they admittedly don&#039;t even play!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia has been out of control for quite some time.  There are at least two users who have gotten a bunch of innocent users blocked for fixing a bunch of articles they messed up, for games they admittedly don&#8217;t even play!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1976</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1976</guid> <description>Wikepedia is run by editors and administrators who use double standards, their own bias and their own personal agendas.  They will ban IP addresses and claim you are a vandal, harassing, attacking and such if you dare to challenge their reckless control.  Wikipedia deliberately spams google for control and has also started it&#039;s own search engine.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikepedia is run by editors and administrators who use double standards, their own bias and their own personal agendas.  They will ban IP addresses and claim you are a vandal, harassing, attacking and such if you dare to challenge their reckless control.  Wikipedia deliberately spams google for control and has also started it&#8217;s own search engine.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: From the Wikipedia web site</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1975</link> <dc:creator>From the Wikipedia web site</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1975</guid> <description>User:Griot&lt;br/&gt;From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This user has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that this user has used one or more accounts abusively.&lt;br/&gt;The abuse of multiple accounts is prohibited; using new accounts to evade blocks or bans results in the block or ban being extended.&lt;br/&gt;See block log • confirmed accounts • suspected socks • Checkuser request&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Categories: Wikipedia sockpuppeteers</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>User:Griot<br
/>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p><p>This user has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that this user has used one or more accounts abusively.<br
/>The abuse of multiple accounts is prohibited; using new accounts to evade blocks or bans results in the block or ban being extended.<br
/>See block log • confirmed accounts • suspected socks • Checkuser request</p><p>Categories: Wikipedia sockpuppeteers</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1974</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1974</guid> <description>From the SF Weekly site:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I edited this story [Wikipedia Idiots] and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister&#039;s fights with Griot and her sister&#039;s role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story. &lt;br/&gt;Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the SF Weekly site:</p><p>I edited this story [Wikipedia Idiots] and I can assure you that Mary did not get fired for this story or any other. Mary decided to leave the paper to take a job with a local documentary filmmaker. She gave her notice before the Wikipedia story was published. She disclosed to me early in the reporting process her sister&#8217;s fights with Griot and her sister&#8217;s role is mentioned high up in our story. Bottom line: We stand by the story. <br
/>Comment by Will Harper, Managing Editor, SF Weekly</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1973</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1973</guid> <description>After a wiki editor, close to the admins, and who appears to spend 18 hours a day on the site, got nasty and particularly officious with me because I refused to kowtow and edit inline with the &quot;guidelines&quot; (not that the article was inflammatory, libellous or even badly spelt; they just insisted that place of birth was in the wrong place, and the subject MUST be referred to by surname only! - They tell you the guidelines are not compulsory, just recommendations, that need not be adhered to - implying that you actually have a choice. Don&#039;t even dream it, the only choice you have is to do it EXACTLY as the allegedly optional manual of style tells you, or they come down on you like a ton of bricks! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As he was becoming increasingly vociferous and officious, I told him if he crossed the line and actually libelled me I would not hesitate to sue. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He removed the friendly warning I posted, and referred to it as &quot;boring&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;I was warned not to make threats of legal action as it &quot;was against the rules&quot; - so it&#039;s okay for the ruling clique to insult and annoy you, but warn them not to do it, and you are in the smelly stuff!&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;After this he contacted the admins who descended upon me like a pack of ravenous wolves. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I suggested they did not persist with this behaviour, or that I would contact the lawyers and have them start proceedings against wikipedia to remove the main page I edited. At this they banned me (indefinitely) in seconds, and proeceeded to decimate the article in question. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nice, huh?! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly, if you can find it, there is discussion for admins, where you can find ordinary users complaining about admins from time to time, giving clear indication, proof, if you will, that admins are &quot;sockpuppeting&quot;, &quot;meat puppeting&quot; (their risible phrases), spamming, and writing articles for companies for commercial gain - wholly illegal as they are supposed to be of charitable status! Yet no action is ever taken against the admins. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have personally witnessed admins editing out links to existing pages, links to legitimate fan sites for actors, etc, and generally editing out anything they don&#039;t like personally, and adding content that is unverifed as though it were gospel! This is rife throughout the whole site.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The orgaization in general, and the admins in particular are corrupt through and through. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If anyone ever gets the notion to edit a page or pages at wiki expect your stay to be short lived and full of setbacks and misery, not just from the admins and over-zealous fifteen year-old editors, but the malicious vandals as well; that is unless you are quiet and obedient, and can stand to see the work you lavish hours in creating decimated because you put the words in the wrong order, or a title is too small, large, et al. Or you constantly have to revert due to vandalism, but don&#039;t dare to actually call most of it vandalism - because they insist you should &quot;assume good faith&quot; - not that the admins ever assume good faith when they get their knives into you! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;These people make the Nazi party look like a mischievous boy scout troop, or Bin Laden like Santa!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My advice is to stay well away, and wipe wikipedia from you memory. Pretty soon the real authorities will catch up with them and they will be history.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a wiki editor, close to the admins, and who appears to spend 18 hours a day on the site, got nasty and particularly officious with me because I refused to kowtow and edit inline with the &#8220;guidelines&#8221; (not that the article was inflammatory, libellous or even badly spelt; they just insisted that place of birth was in the wrong place, and the subject MUST be referred to by surname only! &#8211; They tell you the guidelines are not compulsory, just recommendations, that need not be adhered to &#8211; implying that you actually have a choice. Don&#8217;t even dream it, the only choice you have is to do it EXACTLY as the allegedly optional manual of style tells you, or they come down on you like a ton of bricks!</p><p>As he was becoming increasingly vociferous and officious, I told him if he crossed the line and actually libelled me I would not hesitate to sue.</p><p>He removed the friendly warning I posted, and referred to it as &#8220;boring&#8221;. <br
/>I was warned not to make threats of legal action as it &#8220;was against the rules&#8221; &#8211; so it&#8217;s okay for the ruling clique to insult and annoy you, but warn them not to do it, and you are in the smelly stuff!</p><p>After this he contacted the admins who descended upon me like a pack of ravenous wolves.</p><p>I suggested they did not persist with this behaviour, or that I would contact the lawyers and have them start proceedings against wikipedia to remove the main page I edited. At this they banned me (indefinitely) in seconds, and proeceeded to decimate the article in question.</p><p>Nice, huh?!</p><p>Interestingly, if you can find it, there is discussion for admins, where you can find ordinary users complaining about admins from time to time, giving clear indication, proof, if you will, that admins are &#8220;sockpuppeting&#8221;, &#8220;meat puppeting&#8221; (their risible phrases), spamming, and writing articles for companies for commercial gain &#8211; wholly illegal as they are supposed to be of charitable status! Yet no action is ever taken against the admins.</p><p>I have personally witnessed admins editing out links to existing pages, links to legitimate fan sites for actors, etc, and generally editing out anything they don&#8217;t like personally, and adding content that is unverifed as though it were gospel! This is rife throughout the whole site.</p><p>The orgaization in general, and the admins in particular are corrupt through and through.</p><p>If anyone ever gets the notion to edit a page or pages at wiki expect your stay to be short lived and full of setbacks and misery, not just from the admins and over-zealous fifteen year-old editors, but the malicious vandals as well; that is unless you are quiet and obedient, and can stand to see the work you lavish hours in creating decimated because you put the words in the wrong order, or a title is too small, large, et al. Or you constantly have to revert due to vandalism, but don&#8217;t dare to actually call most of it vandalism &#8211; because they insist you should &#8220;assume good faith&#8221; &#8211; not that the admins ever assume good faith when they get their knives into you!</p><p>These people make the Nazi party look like a mischievous boy scout troop, or Bin Laden like Santa!</p><p>My advice is to stay well away, and wipe wikipedia from you memory. Pretty soon the real authorities will catch up with them and they will be history.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Moulton</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1972</link> <dc:creator>Moulton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1972</guid> <description>The problem with Wikipedia isn&#039;t that it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;inherently corrupt&lt;/i&gt;, but that it lacks functional remedies for righting itself after some episode of irregularity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Conflicts are inevitable in any enterprise with as many participants (and as much public visibility) as Wikipedia.  How a system handles conflicts determines its long-term social health.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There have been a number of well-publicized misadventures on Wikipedia, the outcome of which has left Wikipedia with a tarnished reputation for neutrality, integrity, reliability, and dignity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The evolving policies and practices, while well-intentioned, have left Wikipedia much too vulnerable to &lt;i&gt;gaming the system&lt;/i&gt;.  As a result, participation in Wikipedia often feels less like a scholarly enterprise in crafting an encyclopedia, and more like a cross between a chess game and a multi-player online role-playing game.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Wikipedia isn&#8217;t that it&#8217;s <i>inherently corrupt</i>, but that it lacks functional remedies for righting itself after some episode of irregularity.</p><p>Conflicts are inevitable in any enterprise with as many participants (and as much public visibility) as Wikipedia.  How a system handles conflicts determines its long-term social health.</p><p>There have been a number of well-publicized misadventures on Wikipedia, the outcome of which has left Wikipedia with a tarnished reputation for neutrality, integrity, reliability, and dignity.</p><p>The evolving policies and practices, while well-intentioned, have left Wikipedia much too vulnerable to <i>gaming the system</i>.  As a result, participation in Wikipedia often feels less like a scholarly enterprise in crafting an encyclopedia, and more like a cross between a chess game and a multi-player online role-playing game.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1971</link> <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:07:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1971</guid> <description>There&#039;s a powerful clique on Wikipedia that likes to suppress criticism... a blatant example is their idiotic ban on linking to so-called &quot;attack sites&quot;, a policy that never got anything approaching consensus, but various admins insist on enforcing anyway.  I wrote an &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dtobias/Why_BADSITES_is_bad_policy&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;essay&lt;/a&gt; on the subject.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a powerful clique on Wikipedia that likes to suppress criticism&#8230; a blatant example is their idiotic ban on linking to so-called &#8220;attack sites&#8221;, a policy that never got anything approaching consensus, but various admins insist on enforcing anyway.  I wrote an <a
HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dtobias/Why_BADSITES_is_bad_policy" REL="nofollow">essay</a> on the subject.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ross Dunn</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1970</link> <dc:creator>Ross Dunn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1970</guid> <description>Editor Addition: Early on a person by the name of Blissyu2 left a message on behalf of the Wikipedia Review. Unfortunately this included a URL that caused design issues with our website. I had to remove the original to make an edit. See the barely altered version below: only thing missing is a URL. Sorry!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the post. We at Wikipedia Review (http://www.wikipediareview.com/) work hard to try to expose the corruption of Wikipedia. You should also look at Wikitruth (http://www.wikitruth.info/) as another prominent site (with slightly different aims) that is trying to demonstrate the truth of Wikipedia. If you studied further, you would see much more evidence of much more serious issues. We haven&#039;t really discussed Durova much as yet, but your article may lead to more discussion. We have, however, discussed SlimVirgin to a considerable degree. It really is an eye-opener once you realise that Wikipedia is less than perfect.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By Blissyu2, at 12:22 PM</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor Addition: Early on a person by the name of Blissyu2 left a message on behalf of the Wikipedia Review. Unfortunately this included a URL that caused design issues with our website. I had to remove the original to make an edit. See the barely altered version below: only thing missing is a URL. Sorry!</p><p>Thanks for the post. We at Wikipedia Review (<a
href="http://www.wikipediareview.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikipediareview.com/</a>) work hard to try to expose the corruption of Wikipedia. You should also look at Wikitruth (<a
href="http://www.wikitruth.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikitruth.info/</a>) as another prominent site (with slightly different aims) that is trying to demonstrate the truth of Wikipedia. If you studied further, you would see much more evidence of much more serious issues. We haven&#8217;t really discussed Durova much as yet, but your article may lead to more discussion. We have, however, discussed SlimVirgin to a considerable degree. It really is an eye-opener once you realise that Wikipedia is less than perfect.</p><p>By Blissyu2, at 12:22 PM</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1969</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1969</guid> <description>Durdova, Muchness, Cailil an da bunch of others will delete anything that goes against theri own personal interests. They and their minions have been accused of bias, and in conflict of interest. their rules do not apply accross the wiki-board.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durdova, Muchness, Cailil an da bunch of others will delete anything that goes against theri own personal interests. They and their minions have been accused of bias, and in conflict of interest. their rules do not apply accross the wiki-board.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ross Dunn</title><link>http://www.stepforth.com/blog/2007/is-wikipedia-corrupt/comment-page-1/#comment-1968</link> <dc:creator>Ross Dunn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://dev.stepforth.com/blog/is-wikipedia-corrupt.php#comment-1968</guid> <description>Ross Dunn: my apologies, somehow I deleted this post from Gregory Kohs. Here it is:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;If you and other cabal-like administrators keep banning your opponents, one by one, from the community, it is no wonder that these lopsided &quot;votes&quot; appear to show consensus support.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross Dunn: my apologies, somehow I deleted this post from Gregory Kohs. Here it is:</p><p>&#8220;If you and other cabal-like administrators keep banning your opponents, one by one, from the community, it is no wonder that these lopsided &#8220;votes&#8221; appear to show consensus support.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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